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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

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  2. scandals

  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  Similarly, the Bible correctly describes the shape of the earth as a “sphere,” or “globe.”

  Actually, it doesn't. Isaiah uses the Hebrew word Chug to describe the Earth - which means circle - a flat two dimensional object. Had Isaiah wished to describe the Earth as a sphere he would have used the Hebrew word Dur (see Isaiah 22:18) which means sphere or globe.

  the Bible says that God is “suspending the earth upon nothing.”

  The Bible also says the Earth is supported by pillars (I Samuel 2:8, Job 9:6, and Psalm 75:3). As well as claiming that the Earth has a "chief cornerstone" and "four corners" (Job 38:6, Isaiah 11:12, and Revelation 7:1).

  
  

  It doesn't go unnoticed that you've cherry picked the scriptures you think are supported by modern science while ignoring all the scriptures that blatantly contradicted science. We have a term for people who engage in this sort of rhetoric - we call them dishonest.

  
  
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  Eye-brow Wigs ... are a thing?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  ... and apparently justin trudeau wears them.

  also, they can come off or slip down while you are doing a press-conference to a global audience.

  what a god awful embarrassment this fool is, he should stick to his indian costume dress-up and dancing routine.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g46km4da3yw.

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  Simon and the Watchtower have a lot in common. If they don't like a conclusion they attack the person or institution making the claim instead of addressing the claim itself. And instead of providing facts to support the claims they make - they simply resort to disparaging the motives of anyone who disagrees with them.

  It's a cheap and dishonest move. And one that needs to be called out more often on theses forums.
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  Eye-brow Wigs ... are a thing?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  ... and apparently justin trudeau wears them.

  also, they can come off or slip down while you are doing a press-conference to a global audience.

  what a god awful embarrassment this fool is, he should stick to his indian costume dress-up and dancing routine.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g46km4da3yw.

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  You know what's actually true and is super embarrassing? Trumps ridiculous comb over. Now THAT is embarrassing!!!!

  

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  Beard update

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. physical

  so it's been over a month since i decided to grow a beard.

  the mustache and chin have come in fuller than i ever imagined - while the cheeks leave me wondering if i'll ever grow enough hair to make it not look so wildly unkept and patchy (if anyone has any advice here it'd be much appreciated).

  but in the mean time i'll give it another month and see how it goes.. .

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  So it's been over a month since I decided to grow a beard. The mustache and chin have come in fuller than I ever imagined - while the cheeks leave me wondering if I'll ever grow enough hair to make it not look so wildly unkept and patchy (if anyone has any advice here it'd be much appreciated). But in the mean time I'll give it another month and see how it goes.

  
  
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  Sincere question to those who no longer believe in God

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i get it, not a fan of yahweh the desert god.

  but what about jesus?

  anything wrong with his teachings like the sermon on the mount and the example he set.

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  The sermon on the mount is so full of false teachings, threats of violence, and morally reprehensible positions I'm shocked you think living by such a wicked standard would make the world a better place.

  Seriously, go read the sermon on the mount and ask yourself: What would the world be like if everyone acted like this?

  • NO PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE
  • CALLING SOMEONE A "FOOL" IS PUNISHED BY HELL
  • WOMEN HAVE TO STAY WITH THEIR ABUSIVE HUSBANDS
  • NO FIGHTING AGAINST TYRANNY OR EVIL MEN
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  This is one of the worst speeches I've ever read. It's absolutely horrible. Why anyone would think this is good is beyond me. How about the following?:
  
  

  • WE SHOULD PLAN FOR THE FUTURE SO WE CAN HELP MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE
  • ANYONE CLAIMING TO KNOW THINGS THEY DON'T KNOW SHOULD BE CALLED A FOOL
  • WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE WOMEN IN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS TO LEAVE
  • AND WE SHOULD NEVER BE A SPECTATOR TO TYRANNY OR INTOLERANCE - WE SHOULD FIGHT AGAINST IT AS HARD AS WE CAN FOR AS LONG AS WE CAN
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  Did you learn how to debate in school (or elsewhere)?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night i was taking another look at the term "dialectics":.

  the art of investigating or discussing the truth of opinions: discussion; debate; logical reasoning; etc.. the dialectical method is, at base, a discourse between two or more people holding different points of view about a subject but wishing to establish the truth through reasoned arguments.. while i intend to do further research on my own, what is your own experience regarding preparation for debate, the do's and don'ts, maintaining your cool, .

  i ask, in part, because i observe that some online debaters present facts and figures and use sound reasoning while maintaining their decorum; many do not.. thank you..

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  Not really sure I can add anything you don't already know but sometimes it's nice to have them written out.

  1. Don't make things personal - attack the ideas of your opponent and not the opponent themself
  2. Don't take things personally - identify ad homimen attacks and defend your arguments not your ego
  3. Get you opponent to define terms - and don't allow them to move the goal post
  4. Whenever your opponent offers a non-sequitur - grant it to them and explain why even if it's true it doesn't impact the issue
  5. Remember that some of the most common logical fallacies are Post Hoc Ergo Proctor Hoc, False Equivocation, False Comparison, and the Argument from Ignorance. Having a firm understanding of what they are will help you quickly identify and combat them in debate.
  6. Most Importantly: Don't play chess with a pigeon. If your opponent isn't engaging you with intellectual honesty or basic decency - then you're not having an honest conversation. In this case you need to either walk away (usually the best choice) or assume the moral high ground (effective if you're before an audience). If you're playing chess and your opponent starts moving pawns like they're queen pieces - it's perfectly okay to walk away from the game. And it's also perfectly okay to point out the person is either cheating or altogether doesn't understand how to play chess. Likewise, in discussion, if a person is failing to be honest or is just attacking you - it's okay to point out they're being disingenuous or out right lying.
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  Growing a beard

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. physical

  i've always been currious as to how i would look with a beard so i've finally committed to doing it.

  over the next 30 days i'm going to grow out a full chin to ear beard.. .

  ps:  any suggestions or advice on how to grow a beard would be much appreciated!.

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  I've always been currious as to how I would look with a beard so I've finally committed to doing it. Over the next 30 days I'm going to grow out a full chin to ear beard.

  

  PS: Any suggestions or advice on how to grow a beard would be much appreciated!
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  Moravec's Paradox

  by Coded Logic in

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  this seems to be yet another nail in the coffin for creationist arguments.

  the reason humans are intelligent isn't because we need brains capable of appreciating "gods creation".

  rather, it's a side effect of needing large amounts of computational power for our highly refined motor skills.

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  you can't work on a solution if you don't understand the problem. You can't code what you can't codify.

  This may well be true - but's it's not the case when it comes to mobility. The problem is well understood. It just takes an incredible amount of processing power to maintain balance and and move limbs and digits in the way you want to.
  

  Consider a relatively simple task - like picking up a glass of water. This requires the use of our primary motor cortex, our supplementary motor cortex, our premotor cortex, our posterior parietal cortex, and our occipital lobe. This over half of our brain.

  And the parts of our brain that we use for things like mathematics, philosophy and other higher reasoning endeavors are very small and non-specialized.

  Right now, on this planet we're the only species capable of preforming abstractions like writing poetry. But there's no reason to think that in a million years other species like bonobos, corvids, or octopods wont also be composing haikus. All species are transitory. And just because no other species are on our level yet doesn't mean they never will be.

  Though I'm sure by then creationist will have switched their arguments from "mankind is gods special creation" to "god wants all species to appreciate his creation"
  
  
  
  
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  I was quite tolerant of this guy until now

  by never a jw in

  1. social
  2. current

  president trump is definitely a demagogue, a populist, and not a great extemporaneous speaker, just to mention few of his more conspicuous flaws.

  however, i was going along because "it's the economy stupid".

  now that has changed.

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  Trumps been living in a complete fantasy world. And the consequences of that are finally catching up with him.
  
  

  
  

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  Moravec's Paradox

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. current

  this seems to be yet another nail in the coffin for creationist arguments.

  the reason humans are intelligent isn't because we need brains capable of appreciating "gods creation".

  rather, it's a side effect of needing large amounts of computational power for our highly refined motor skills.

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  This seems to be yet another nail in the coffin for creationist arguments. The reason humans are intelligent isn't because we need brains capable of appreciating "gods creation". Rather, it's a side effect of needing large amounts of computational power for our highly refined motor skills. Things like mathematics, philosophy, music, etc. are, on many levels, much simpler than the complex tasks of climbing a tree or opening a door. Recent developments in robotics has forced us to realize this. Consider Movec's Paradox:

  Moravec's paradox is the discovery by artificial intelligence and robotics researchers that, contrary to traditional assumptions, high-level reasoning requires very little computation, but low-level sensorimotor skills require enormous computational resources. The principle was articulated by Hans Moravec, Rodney Brooks, Marvin Minsky and others in the 1980s. As Moravec writes, "it is comparatively easy to make computers exhibit adult level performance on intelligence tests or playing checkers, and difficult or impossible to give them the skills of a one-year-old when it comes to perception and mobility."[1]
  Similarly, Marvin Minsky emphasized that the most difficult human skills to reverse engineer are those that are unconscious. "In general, we're least aware of what our minds do best," he wrote, and added "we're more aware of simple processes that don't work well than of complex ones that work flawlessly."